Hi Guys and Gals
I have been involved in a few debates recently as to whether hypnosis alone is enough for getting lasting results in changework. Well… my answer is contained in the video below!
BUT…
If you are someone who is interested in applying hypnosis or hypnotic elements for getting lasting change with clients (or even just family and friends), I would like to invite you to partake in my Teleseminar/Webinar Making Hypnosis Work for Lasting Change!
Through this seminar I will be sharing some top tips for ensuring that the work you do effective and lasts over time.
The date is the 10th of August
The time is 6:30 PM GMT (7:30 British Summer Time)
The place is right here!
Everything that you need to know to partake in the seminar is detailed below the video.
I Look forward to answering your questions and sharing some of my top tips and psychological subtleties on the call!
Oh, and please do ‘like’ this and share it via Facebook and tell any friends who might like to get on the call or follow the webcast!
Listen to the replay of the teleseminar right now!
53 Comments
Jonathan Chase
August 6, 2011James. I have people who have been suffering the positive effects of nothing more than direct suggestion hypnosis for over 20 years. While I agree that it isn’t always true that direct suggestion hypnosis isn’t always enough I have to say that it’s wrong to generalise. It can be and has been enough in many cases for many decades.
James Tripp
August 6, 2011Hi Jon, hope you are well!
You are quite right Jon, though I am not generalising as much as you suggest – I did mentioned exceptions, and that hypnosis alone can work! The question is, what is the difference between the times it does work and the times it doesn’t? And how do you turn the ‘doesn’ts into does’s’.
That is what the teleseminar is about!
All the very best
James
disa
August 6, 2011Thanks for making it available to listen online (cheaper fore me than dialing). See you on the 10th then.
James Tripp
August 6, 2011And you can dial in by Skype, which is also free!
See you the Disa!
J
Jonathan Chase
August 6, 2011You turn the do’s into do’s by delivering the suggestions with authority and directness, no ambiguity, and by testing really well. My apologies if I came across as saying you are generalising entirely, I didn’t mean to. 🙂
James Tripp
August 6, 2011I agree that authority and directness are important factors Jon (ambiguity can be a useful tool too when used to increase practitioner flexibility without reducing impact), and I also know that there is a bit more to it than just that.
The key is in how the change is integrated into the clients life and into their ‘web of understandings’ about the world and about themselves. Either the hypnotist/changework practitioner knows how to do this or they are just relying on luck to take care of things (however skilled they are as a hypnotist).
James
Raymond
August 6, 2011I really agree with your video James.
My experience was exactly the same several years ago, when people told me their live’s had changed. As an engineer I am used to test and monitor and I was shocked that many dropped out of this new reality within 6 months. That was when I started to realize that what I did as an engineer wasn’t right. Any system needs constant care and attention its very rare you set it up once and it keeps running without checkups and minor adjustments.
Hence I started learning cognitive therapy during my applied-therapy course where you hand people over a cause of several sessions, tools to do their own tweaking and monitoring, as to give them tools for live. Even exceptional phases in their lives like unusual stress, holidays etc they really can throw a spanner in the works. However when you are cognitively aware of this you can actually make the real decision as to say: “Well this is a holiday it’s alright to let go and over eat and enjoy but as soon as were home I will need to work hard.” Or over stress (which in the working world is out of your control most of the time) you can say: “Okay I feel bad and I tired but as soon as this project is done, I need to do A,B and C then I will coast for a while or take a break or have some extra me time.”
Jon, ambiguous suggestion (especially ambiguous suggestions that seem completely different but in the long run end up on the same point) can be very powerful. Basically much like a double bind: “Will you be paying right now or next month?” when your goal is to have the person pay within 6 weeks but than far more subtle.
But here’s the crux what ties in with James’ video here. In order to create the right ambiguous suggestions you will actually need to know the source of the person’s problems and create these ambiguous suggestions very creatively; Which most of the time you cannot do in a single session.
I always despised hypnotist marketing with 1 session and you will be cured of _______. And even worse very well known hypnotherapist have this moronic approach. When you ask them how they know they were cured? Their only response is, they didn’t get back to me. Well didn’t you basically slam the door in front of their face, stating you’d fix them in a single session and when it’s not fixed you basically broke their trust. When a mechanic says me my car is fixed and the same thing breaks again after the 3 months warranty, I know he did a bodge job and I will not go back to that garage. He is in the firm believe his bodge job actually worked or is all to aware that it would break again but take the profit and run.
Luis Zevallos-Quiñones
August 6, 2011Hi James, I like to know about the belief of some therapists (hypnotists too!) about the 21 repetitions/days! Why they say that if habits tend to be learned much faster? and How you can do ChangeWork faster than the 21 repetitions/days rule?.
Thanks in advance.
Luis
James Tripp
August 6, 2011Hi Luis
21 day rule is just a rule of thumb. Changework faster than 21 days? Well, not everything is about conditioned habits – a genuine shift in understanding can lead to dramatic and instant change in behaviour and response.
Hope that helps!
All the very best
James
Luis Zevallos-Quiñones
August 10, 2011Thank James!
Travis
August 7, 2011Great info James, looking forward to this teleseminar!
Christine Brock
August 7, 2011Hi James, enjoyed the video and I’m relieved to hear that someone other than me, feels that it takes more than one session and on the basis of an eclectic approach, to get lasting change.
Will be listening in on on wednesday.
Christine.
macka
August 7, 2011I agree with you James and I like your statement duty of care as I think hypnotist should follow up make sure everything is going to plan.
I see people minds a bit like a guitar, sometimes they just go out of tune and need a tune up other times we never learned how to tune ( so need a shift in understanding) once we learn we then continue to tune it back up when it does go out.
macka
bob burns
August 7, 2011Here’s one for you all.
If the moon can change the waters of the whole planet in 28 (NOT 21) days, and of course it can and it does. And if our bodies are 80% water, including our brains. Then:
Is it possible that if ‘I change a thought’, and hold that changed thought for 28 days, is it ‘possible’ that as the old thought gets washed away the new thought gets even more solidified?
I call this ‘The Bob Burns Moon Thought’. You can pre- purchase the CD now for a fiver.
I agree with Jon of course but yes James, you’re right, there’s ALWAYS something else. That little difference that makes the big difference.
For example: ‘a procedure’ that sticks a card to a hand. Now I never did think too much of your ‘card stick’, thinking it was only a tiny % that it would work on. BUT, I decided to try to prove myself wrong ( a favourite little game of mine) and as I used it more and more I think my attitude/intention changed, and now? Well it’s one of my favourite things.
My main point? Well like I said belief and intention are paramount, But yes, a procedure that can be taught to others, perhaps with less experience in practical work, can be that little difference that completely opens them up to the wonders that lie right there. The wakening of the sleeping giant perhaps? I absolutely now that this is something you seek and do rather well James.
I’ll try and tune in to the webinar/teleseminar, although it IS my dominoes night down at The Crown and Anchor.
Raymond
August 7, 2011Bob where does it say that the moon changes the waters in 28 days? Because there’s no atmosphere there’s no vegetation there’s no photosynthesis.
So the water is probably as stale as it was since it was locked in. Love to see the link to the official research to that.
Then still water is not the same as thought — unless you’re someone who believe in the homeopathy nonsense. Even so you are caught in a viscous spiral because you consume your own urine again. The waters of the world do not change they just recycle. Who knows you even me start to commit Also genocide because of Hitler’s and Karadzic’s urine.
Also the majority of the ‘water’ are trapped inside of cells. The do not come out unless the cell walls are destroyed. Some of the most persistant cells holding a lot of water are fat cells. They do not recycle and have an enormously long lifespan.
macka
August 8, 2011Just some more crazy ideas on the guitar. each string is a belief and each scale is a state. If one belief is out one string is out of tune. like a phobia cure tune the one string and its cured. Though if 2 strings are out when playing a song a when living out a part life fixing one belief is not enough to be cured you need to tune two strings. the strings connected by songs so beliefs are connected by areas in our lifes where more then one belief is required.
some songs are happy some sad joyfull rockin hypnotic
macka
August 8, 2011or should I say all songs are hypnotic
John
August 7, 2011Hi James,
Further to your comments, I see the problem being that people often perceive the ‘event’ of stage hypnosis and how it is portrayed to them by the hypnotist as being applicable to hypnotherapy and therefore come to therapy with certain perceptions, that are not actually helpful for personal empowerment. Therapy is a journey / process of change, stage hypnosis is an event for entertainment, very very different outcomes.
Jonathan Chase
August 8, 2011I always teach you treat the person not the problem. However that can be done directly and swiftly in very many cases. It’s also true tha after a one session success that other therapists are unlikely to see such people as it’s only the failures who will seek further respite. Sadly this creatates a false view that all direct and rapid intervention fails. And for exactly the same reason it’s true that for a lot of direct suggestion hypnotists it could look as if many other approaches also have a low success rate. The fact is both can and do work.
James Tripp
August 8, 2011I agree Jon.
It is certainly NOT true to say all rapid hypnotic intervention fails (I hope this is not what I have ended up implying), and it IS true to say that all approaches have failure rates (for numerous reasons).
My interest is in optimising success. The tools of hypnosis are excellent for this, as are certain understandings about clients motivation systems, attitudes and worldviews and how to manage them such as to get lasting functional change happening with ALL clients who actively engage in the process.
All the very best
James
bob burns
August 8, 2011Jesus Raymond, I’ve got a funny feeling that you’d do my head in, on a one to one, so I’m not going to go there if that’s ok.
So, the moon has a direct influence on tidal earth. Is that ok?
And no I haven’t actually read the research. I prefer to watch a bit of TV, see some stand-up. drink beer. Chill.
And I absolutely believe in homeopathy by the way. Pity you haven’t read the research on that.
Raymond
August 8, 2011No Bob I won’t I just am fascinated as a hobbiest about space. I remember back in 2007 when NASA found actual proof of water beneath the surface of the moon that I jumped around cheering *kid you not*
I never found research about homeopathy having substances that actually aid the curing except for Clever Hans syndrome and placebo — which I am personally fine with. That latest message from a Swiss researcher with copying DNA in some sorta of a reactor for 18 hours — haven’t got the whole story clear. Has not been replicated, not the least because scientists don’t want to because its a waste of time — not a good scientific point of view imho. Cross-contamination is the most likely but wouldn’t it be great to actually proof that?
I don’t see how a extreme dilutions so small that we’d need to fly of this planet and collect all the water in our galaxy to get that amount of water to create a dilution for a single drop that it can have effect.
I am sure I drank water with more copper or lead particles and that has no effect on me — not that I like drinking heavy metals like lead and luckily pipes have been changed in most places for copper but copper oxyde is also considered toxic but we do not keel over, which we should if homeopathy works the way they claim. I should suffer immediate copper poisoning or at this stage with all the radiation having leaked in to the pacific (dilutions far small than what homeopathy uses) we should all be dying of radiation poisoning.
So to me the whole homeopathy theory doesn’t make sense. However I would love to see scientists test the claims of this Swiss scientist who marveled about his contaminated water.
And who knows if on a micro-molecular level certain things are changed when water comes into contact…. It could be…. whether those tiny changes have an effect on us, is then a whole different question and especially how…
Kallie
August 8, 2011Hi James
Your stuff on hypnosis without trance has changed the way I approach hypnosis! I’m really excited about the webinar, but I might end up missing it.
Are you going to post a video of it at a later date? I REALLY want to listen in.
PS: Keep up the great work. 🙂
Korey
August 8, 2011Hi James.
My personal view is this: I’m a hypnotist, not a therapist. I don’t want to be a therapist. I use hypnosis to help people get what they want in terms of their own behavior. That is, I’ll change how they think to change how they behave. If they don’t know what they want I can’t help them (unless what they want is to know what they want).
Hypnosis is the skill that I offer that achieves that or doesn’t achieve that, as the case may be. If and when it doesn’t work I will try again, and again, and again if they’re up for it. Or they get their money back.
It’s interesting. When I first watched this video you got my dander up. As a direct hypnotist that utilizes the ‘black box’ approach I got all defensive and planned to debate your position.
Instead, I took some time to reflect. And I find I agree with you. Hypnosis doesn’t always work. But it works so brilliantly and so often that I don’t care. And I don’t mean that in a negative way. I just mean that I know that I’m a hypnotist and not a therapist. If my client is looking for a therapist he’ll have to keep looking. I know how to hypnotize so that a person’s experience of reality is changed. And that’s it. And it’s awesome!
You, if I’m reading your mind correctly, want to be an amazingly effective therapist with hypnosis being a single tool in your toolbox (a major tool but just one of many). That’s awesome, too.
Thanks for continuing to post such thought provoking videos.
Korey – continuing to think inside the (black) box
Raymond
August 8, 2011Korey,
I really like what you do to give the people a no-cure-no-pay approach!
However here a question to you… Usually people feel that they’ve changed after a session that change can ‘zing’ through them for some weeks. You see it often with people who went to some ‘holistic workshop’ and they ‘zing and radiate’ but after about 2 or 3 weeks that wears of.
Do you callback your customers 6 months, 12 months, 18 months and 24 months afterwards to see if they are still okay?
Something that a medical specialist does, they call you back every 3 or 6 months.
I as an engineer always have had a problem with “blackbox” theories (though I admit I use that approach in most of my work too — I do not know from A to Z what the operating system in my computer does, or what the microcontroller I use does).
The blackbox methods work for the most of us and when the work 99 out of a 100 times it’s okay. The problem arises when you put in A and B’ comes out instead of A’. With the lack of knowledge how the whole process works you cannot solve the problem. It’s for most people when their stereo breaks. They have no clue how to fix it. A stereo is for most people a perfectly acceptable blackbox. As long as you know that sound needs to come out and needs to sound a certain way you know it’s working.
In this case the only people who are trying to understand what it is how our brain works (gets out of tune and how we can get quick change) or neuro-scientists and cognitive-psychologist. They are researching at the lowest levels how our brain works and even they get puzzled — it’s a bigger mystery as to how our brain works than the existence of the universe.
So when a blackbox approach works 99 out of 100 times than its perfectly okay as long as you calibrate that the outcome is A’ and not X’. After all very few of us are specialists and even specialists work with blackbox theories. The neuroscientists use fMRIs that I am pretty sure they do not know how they work in detail.
Korey
August 9, 2011Hi Raymond.
To answer your question: No, I don’t do any follow up. What I do is offer an 84 day warranty. If, at any time during the 84 days following our initial hypnosis session, the client is unhappy with the result I’ll do what I can to make them happy (with the last resort being to refund their money). But I leave it up to them to contact me. I don’t do any follow up myself. I tell them that up front.
I believe that everyone is responsible for their own behavior. Hypnosis can change someone in a moment. At the same time I assert that the change must be maintained by the individual over the long term.
If 21 days is the rule of thumb for locking in a behavior change (as studies indicate) then 84 days is plenty of time to feel satisfied that the hypnosis has good and truly done its job.
I am in the infancy of my hypnosis journey so my understandings will undoubtedly change but this is where I am at the moment.
As to the rest of what you wrote: Holy crap! I have a hard enough time understanding my own black box never mind that of a generic black box that can be applied in anyone’s situation. I’ll happily leave that to those so inclined. My plate is full being the best hypnotist I can be.
Korey
Joe K Fobes
August 10, 2011Korey,
I think the fact that you don’t follow up tells us all that we need to know.
Joe
Korey
August 11, 2011Joe,
If you are implying that I am new to the field, lack experience, and that I am making a fundamental error, I appreciate the feedback.
If you are implying that I am lazy, that I don’t care, or that I am in any way a shyster, I’d appreciate an apology.
Korey
Joe K Fobes
August 11, 2011Korey,
(I can’t reply to your reply, so I’m replying a level up).
I was implying that this statement you made
“Hypnosis doesn’t always work. But it works so brilliantly and so often that I don’t care.”
is quite misleading.
Perhaps it’s because you’re new, without experience, and making an error. Perhaps it’s because you’re a bad guy. How would I know?
🙂
I actually think that it’s from reading the words of other hypnotists who tout that position. And I think that it’s misleading and messes a lot of beginners up (when they ask ‘why did the client change back’ the answer they get is ‘he wasn’t hypnotized’). It leaves them chasing the wrong answers.
The interesting thing is that it only messes the serious students up. They are the ones who work with clients, check for feedback, and make sure that what they do holds up in the real world. The casual ‘I helped my friend stop smoking’ types often don’t run into those questions and end up touting the approach that the master sells with the detrimental effect of adding credibility and further confusing the serious student.
My goal, with all the greatest respect, was to discredit what you said so the next viewer wouldn’t make that mistake.
Once again, I don’t think you’re bad, I simply think that you have heard someone or someones tout a position that sounds cool and simple and smart, and that without testing for yourself you have assumed that what they say is reality. And you have then gone on to tout the same position.
Not out to get you here, this is about the position that your took on.
With respect,
Joe
James Tripp
August 10, 2011I’m not a therapist either Korey – really I’m just a guy that helps people change their behaviours and responses. The skills and tools that comprise hypnosis help greatly with this, but there are other tools that I can bring in that make me more successful in doing what I do.
All the very best
James
Korey
August 11, 2011Hi James.
I just finished listening to the recording of your webinar. Congratulations! I enjoyed it thoroughly.
You mentioned a comment on your blog I assumed was mine (i.e. how the hypnotist did no follow up with clients). My thinking for no follow ups was twofold:
1) If the client is unhappy with the result of our session and can’t be bothered to pick up the phone, or send off a quick email, how motivated are they to even get the result at all. I’m not going to force them to change.
2) If the client was completely happy with the result I didn’t want them being reminded that they had needed help from me (preferring instead that they eventually feel it was all their own effort, therefore adding to their self efficacy). *I have issue with asking for help so I’m surely projecting this to others. Maybe I should get some help with that. Nah!
Your comments about feedback really got me thinking. Especially the bit about how I am depriving myself of valuable learning by not doing follow up with my clients. I’ll have to listen again to get more take aways but that was a splash of cool water in the face.
I would encourage you to do another webinar in the future. In any venue it’s apparent the thought you put in to the subject provoking quality reflection in my hypnosis education.
Hope all stays calm in your end of the world.
Korey
James Tripp
August 11, 2011Hi Korey
I’m gald you enjoyed the Teleseminar and got some food for thought from it.
To address your 2 points…
Regarding point 1. My own preference is to assess motivation and client attitude before beginning work. If I don’t believe that they are committed, I won’t work with them. I think that a client is entitled to have their expectations appropriately managed by me, as I am the expert they are coming to.
Regarding Point 2. If the client is happy with the result, you have an opportunity to congratulate THEM and get their story of success. This is great learning feedback because it tells you what kind of experiences successful clients have. THIS IS GOLD! it will help you to understand the patterns of success in change.
Overall, you cannot go wrong with getting feedback, providing you know how to utilise it. You CAN go wrong disconnecting from a process and hoping that it all pans out… and you may never even know.
If you love hypnosis and changework and are dedicated to a ‘path of mastery’ with it, feedback is gold for you. It may mean that you uncover problems to iron out and hit sticking points, but ultimately you will become a true master of changework.
All the very best
James
John
August 9, 2011Hi James,
Posing a question: why do you think that a ‘behaviour’ can be rapidly induced via suggestions on stage, but the same process does not achieve the same in therapy where the suggestions are supporting life enhancing change? One would think that it would be more motivating to follow and lock in suggestions to improve the quality of ones life rather than follow random suggestions on a stage in front of people?
Joe K Fobes
August 10, 2011@John
Doing something on stage is a one time event. You do it and it’s done.
Changing how you live you life is about the long term.
Any decent hypnotist who can get his subject to hallucinate on demand can get what he wants in regards to life changes with a subject in the short term.
The question is what to do when the client comes back a month later (or doesn’t even trust you enough to come back) and the problem is there once again.
Joe
James Tripp
August 10, 2011To add to what Joe has said – it is one thing to get a behaviour happening and sustained in the presence of a hypnotist, and another to have it sustained once the hypnotist and subject have parted company.
And when all that is said, sometimes the new behaviour will feedback into the system and the change will sustain. I just don’t want to leave that down to luck.
Glen
August 10, 2011Will there be a replay after the call? Will be at work at the time of this call but I would really like to hear what you have to say. Thankyou for expanding the conversation.
Adam
August 10, 2011Hi!
Will there be a chance to listen to the seminar aferwards?
Greets
gary plumridge
August 10, 2011james having trouble connecting to tele seminar
gary plumridge
August 10, 2011Hi James
Tried to log on to seminar but wouldn’t happen very dissapointed, will you be putting a recording on the blog ?
gary
Gareth Lee Morgan
August 10, 2011Hi James.
Well presented teleseminar, clear, concise and lots of great information. I particularly like that you used real world examples to explain your process and train of thought. As I practice each new skill I learn in this field it’s become apparent that feedback is extremely important and without it, I would not know how to move forward. I would certainly log on to move tele/webinars if you do them. Great work and I’ll be seeing you at the weekend for HWT live.
James Tripp
August 10, 2011Thank you Gareth!
It was a new experience for me! Now that I have doene it I will be definitely doing it again.
J
adrian
August 10, 2011Hi James Adrian byrne here really enjoyed the teleseminar
You really know your stuff hats of to ya for all the stuff IV learned
Really opened up my mind since listening to your work and seeing what you can do
Stuart
August 10, 2011Thanks James,
Really enjoyed your seminar and has left me with a lot of food for thought.
I’m not qualified or practicing yet, but have followed your blog for some time now and I also attended the peer support group meeting in Bournemouth in June where you gave a very interesting talk.
I find you explain things very well and I look forward to more of the same – so please, yes, DO more of these 🙂
With high regards,
Stuart
James Tripp
August 10, 2011Thank you Stuart! Regarding more… I certainly will!
J
James Tripp
August 10, 2011For all those who have asked about a replay, it is now available just under the video above!
All the very best
James
macka
August 10, 2011Wow that was an awsome webinar Thanks James.. I like the idea of using consiousness to change. Id never heard that before. Its like when Im feeling bad or something instead of just wollowing in it, I can ask myself what is message My subconsious ( or God ) is trying to teach me. Its kind spiritiual in a way.
macka
Bonnie
August 11, 2011Thank you James,
I hope you film it and make a tape for us in the states.
Saul Ross
August 11, 2011Hi James,
Just to say really appreciate the work you are doing, thought provoking, instructional – first rate delivered with genuine caring – fantastic.
BTW thanks for posting the recording I had intended listening live from Melbourne however fell asleep just before.
Have a great day. – Saul
David Saville
August 17, 2011Hello James,
I am sorry I missed the seminar. I look forward to listening to it.
With regards the theme: I agree that hypnosis alone is not enough: NLP techniques on their own are not enough (for most people). As Aristotle once said: we are what we repeatedly do, excellence therefore is not an act, but a habit.
People spend years practicing “bad” ways of doing things: they become experts at it. So, it is no wonder if it takes a bit of time and practice to change at a deep and permanent level.
Raymond Jean-Louis
November 21, 2011Hi James, I just bought a book from Vincent Derkaoui ¨Hypnotisme Professionnel¨ and I must say that I’m disapointed. Now I’m looking at your cd’s . It seem’s interresting but to start with, wich courses should I start with..
If I was in a club would there be a way of hypnotising a girl in leaving and spend the night without touching her? And if so would you send me the directive’s to try it out before buying anything.. Thank you
James Tripp
November 27, 2011Hi Raymond
The best product I currently have for you to start with is the Hypnosis Mastery Programme.
Regarding hypnotising girls into sleeping with you; if you think you need hypnosis for that, you are probably in trouble!
There are ways for a man to be in the world, and walk through the world that are, generally speaking, attractive (aspirationally attractive to men, sexually attractive to women). Attitudes, mindsets, behaviours, understandings – things that enable you to connect naturally your personal power. Becoming a hypnotist can help you to develop many of those things – help you to develop personal strength, intention, centeredness, assuredness, exquisite communication and more. Think of it as ‘The Way of the Hypnotist’ if you like, but really it is just the ‘Way of Personal Power’.
There is no formula, no directive, no magic recipe – only skill, attitude, understanding and intention.
Hope that helps!
All the very best
James
P.S. You may be interested in checking out The Magnetic Man. John and Kalpna are friends of mine and, regarding women, they may have some very useful information for you.
Scott
December 5, 2011Hello James.
I wrote you an inquiry concerning your Hypnosis w/out Transe product yesterday, and you promptly answered, even though it was a Sunday. I had a follow up question, but I don’t think it was very clear, and I’m going try to be a bit clearer, and ask you here in case other people might be able to benefit from your answer.
I’m starting off on my adventure as a practioner of hypnotherapy, I find it amazing. I’m interested in your hypnotic phenomena without transe for feeling more confident with patients, and frankly because I think it sounds interesting, also I can imagine it’s great for convincers, even transitioning phenonmena into change, etc. I’m sure the uses are endless, so I’m going to order both that program and the No-Fail protocol.
My question. I’m trying to find out if Change Applications is something I should be going for as well (now and get the better package deal). I’ve looked a little into Clean Language, and see that you address it in this product. I’m not completely sure what Clean language is exactly yet, but in my training we learned (got drilled into us, and were slapped on the wrist when overstepping our bounds) to strip as much as possible any projections onto the client or interpretations of what they’re saying or wanting to say, to reformulate with his/her language all the time, using questioning to get the to define what their request is, until they’ve gotten it to what is most important, or apparent to them, using their meta-models, meta-programmes, etc. on the way, but it being their decisions, their conclusions, etc. (I’m simplifying here, a word or such can be offered, but is rejected if not taken on board by the client, I think the idea is clear) Checking to make sure this request is ecological for them and their entourage, etc.
All of this is done using rapport, building a relationship, confidence, etc, of course, and frankly, both parties are normally in some sort of light transe during all of this, just by being in rapport, whatever Milton patterns fit in, and the type of questioning itself. My belief is the session work starts at the moment of greeting. Obviously some hypnosis phenomena without a formal transe could slide right in here at this point, once the request has been defined (this part has probably taken around 30mins or more of the 1st session), and then the choice of what protocol best fits the demand, person, etc. (Rossi style magnetic hands, time line, age regression, Score, whatever). Normally here I would do an induction, then fraction if that fit the protocol, not if something like a Score, etc.) Not having ordered your hypnosis without transe yet, I have no idea how far it might affect what I do now, my point is to stay as open as possible, with only results as being my guideline. BUT (and thankyou for your endurance here) where does your Change Application programme work in here with all of this? Is it to segue from phenomena into changework (like Rossi’s magnetic hands; the hands approach as the ressources for change are settling into place) ? I’ve read the course description a couple of times, but as I learned all of this here in France, I’m not sure by reading the English description if it is stuff I’m already doing, or not. Also, me living in France, I’m not always sure if my questions are always very clear. I hope my approach is clear enough for you to tell me if I should stick with the first two products you mentioned earlier, or if the Change App is something I should be checking out as well.
And do you use ideomotor signals in your work without transe?
Thanks a heap
Scott
James Tripp
December 9, 2011Hi Scott
If you are already doing Changework and hypnosis, Changework Applications will probably a useful DVD set will probably be useful for you.
Regarding Clean Language, this set doesn’t really go into it (although it is a big influence on me regarding Hypnosis and Changework). The best intro to Clean Language is Clean Language, Revealing Metaphors and Opening Minds.
I do use ideomotor (ideodynamic) work, but not for ‘yes/’no’ signals – I use it in a much more analogue way, some methods of which are covered on Changework Applications.
All the very best
James
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